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Neil 758

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Sailing at Rock
« on: February 09, 2020, 12:51:12 PM »

I sailed at Rock SC for a national championship regatta in another class many years ago. I remember it being a great place to go sailing for a few days. It's very picturesque and the club was really good. Just wondering if anyone knows whether the racing for our Nats will be in the Camel Estuary or whether they will put us out into the open sea in Padstow Bay? I'm equally happy either way - the estuary is big, but just wondering what conditions to expect.
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The Belgian

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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2020, 02:10:06 PM »

The nationals is meant to be held on the sea so hopefully in the bay.
It's about time we got back to 70+ entries could this great venue be the one to get us back there...
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Neil 758

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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2020, 02:33:18 PM »

It is a pretty epic venue - not one to be missed. I've got my accommodation booked already 😎
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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2020, 05:05:19 PM »

Nationals are meant to be held in a TIDAL location which means estuary or sea.

Conditions on the day will dictate location. No reason why we cant do either or both over the weekend

No point in binning it off because the sea is rough and the estuary is sailable is there?
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gordon Kingston

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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2020, 11:31:50 AM »

Hi Phil
I do hope the club can find a way to accommodate us. Might be the only event I can do this year.
It is difficult even with the 1m plus distancing coming in, part of the reason we go to Nationals is to socialise with other Phantom sailors don't know how big the clubhouse is so not sure if this will be sensible. Also you have to consider will we get the entries to cover the costs if people are uncertain.(Should have gone for the January entry then quite a lot might already be committed)
Not an easy decision for the class or the club all you can do is keep talking to them.
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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2020, 09:20:53 PM »

We can do it with a bit of thought Gordon. Social bubbles in the evening could solve main problem. Rigging launching shower sailing I don't see a problem apart from rescue and committee boats having to be in a family bubble. Needing rescue could be a problem...
See you there big boy
Ivan 1454
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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2020, 12:49:48 PM »

Current government guidelines state you cannot organise events of more then 6 people - this would include the race committee in an event - as such regardless of any social bubbles currently its grey area but a no go and would still be regardless of when we took entries

Based on today's news its looking even less likely by the day but is forever changing, but there has to be a cut off
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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2020, 05:53:11 PM »

We were hoping to start club racing 4th July but now not looking likely.
I am sure were all hoping Boris will ease things a bit more then you see images like Bournemouth beach and news of the Leicester patch. Not good
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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2020, 07:48:43 PM »

setting current guidelines to one side for a mo.
I was encouraged to note just now that both RSWC and B14 websites presently have the combined euros\nats event still scheduled for early September.
but if Covid does prevent Rock then Phantoms won't have an open sea nationals for at least two years 😥

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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2020, 10:25:32 AM »

RYA guidelines say max groups of 30. The way I see it outside sport is allowed and it's within the rules to use your own judgement and on that basis if Rock are happy to run it then it should go ahead or we find try another venue that would like the income and prestige of holding a Phantom nationals. Football is now on with no crowd but there must be around 100 people at least to put matches on. Same goes for horse racing. And mass protests and street parties are also allowed so a 50 or 60 single hander a couple of miles out at sea is not going to break any rules I know of. Also before anyone brings it up rescue is allowed RNLI do it so do RAC and AA. We could even put a max wind strength rule to show a bit of compromise in the circumstances F4 max maybe...
I think unless it a yes to nationals going ahead we should give it until the end of July cos by then we will know if all the idiots not behaving have caused a big second wave and we have another lockdown and no choice anyway.
Cheers all
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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2020, 11:33:58 AM »

17 June RSWC posted that they hope to be able to host events as restrictions are eased - 2 metre social distancing is difficult


July  4 English Covid guidelines reduce social distancing to 1 metre plus - thus making mixed Andromeda            (RO boat) and rib crewing possible

            Single-handers on open water with dinghy park precautions  doesn't breach guidelines

            UK Gov has always acknowledged that exercise is beneficial to


nb RYA are continually adapting their guidance

           

Briefings in September can be done in groups of less than 30 in the area adjacent to the clubhouse


Briefings and site specific Covid info could be shared via Youtube perhaps


Compromise measures may include not racing in the Bay when winds exceed 17 knots


Allocate a designated buddy to assist with launching/recovering & trolleys - fortunately Rock has easy launching and plenty of beach head space

I believe the RYA are to review their guidance tomorrow so we should see what that says. Rock are keen to hold it so all looking positive to me !!
Ivan 1454


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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2020, 01:00:17 PM »

A Facebook poll to see who wants to go to the Nationals has been started. I you want to be added and like me won't do Facebook try a get someone to add your name if you can..
Ivan 1454
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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2020, 02:00:21 PM »

Max force four we know that's what you want ivan!!
hardly worth launching the boat for.
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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2020, 04:45:03 PM »

Like you Gordon I'm going for the excellent beer that's  brewed down there. Can you imagine how good that first pint will taste after a hard race...
Cheers
Ivan 1454
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Re: Sailing at Rock
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2020, 04:22:16 PM »

HI Phil
The front page of the website says the class would update us at the end of June, so whats the score? Has the decision been delayed if so please let us know.
Regards
Gordon
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