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General => Classic Phantoms => Topic started by: Mikeyev60 on September 12, 2016, 10:42:47 AM

Title: Deep cockpit conversion to open transom?
Post by: Mikeyev60 on September 12, 2016, 10:42:47 AM

Hello!  Newbie here.  Newbie to sailing full stop, let alone Phantoms.  So; plenty of capsizes but getting better.  I've got transom flaps (that work okay) and self bailers (that need a fair draw to get anything through) but the dinghy takes ages to empty after inversion.  Fine when cruising but a real PITA in the first race I did - ended up giving up as it was crazy weather-vaning with all the water in and couldn't get the thing moving to empty it.  As soon as it started to move it snapped back to the dead zone!

I understand the differences and pros and cons of the higher floor boats, but can't help be envious of my friend who's Ovi hulled Phantom clears in seconds.  I do need the extra space, being tall, fat and old.  Is there a way of converting the wooden, low floored hulls into an open transom design?  I think I know the answer but thought I would try here first.

Title: Re: Deep cockpit conversion to open transom?
Post by: silverwood on November 24, 2016, 08:03:27 PM

I have seen some half floor versions - false floor from front bulkhead to end of the centreboard case - but no idea of plans or how well they work. Less water at the front of the boat but plenty of legroom at the back!

Title: Re: Deep cockpit conversion to open transom?
Post by: gordon Kingston on November 25, 2016, 01:03:11 PM

Hi Mikey
JJ Boats make a version with double bottom from the bulhead back to the normal seating position, a deeper well for ease of handling with a couple of self bailers in and then double bottomed back to the transom.
Dont know whos got one local to you but could be worth having a look to get inspiration. They are also if finished in sapele very pretty.
Regards
Gordon

Title: Re: Deep cockpit conversion to open transom?
Post by: Little Monster on November 25, 2016, 07:53:54 PM

If you look in the Gallery section there are some photos of my old boat (1404) being built by JJ showing the deep well.

Regards
Ian

Title: Re: Deep cockpit conversion to open transom?
Post by: Phantom Titch on December 02, 2016, 01:50:46 PM

James Case modified an old FRP one too, seems to work for him,

Titch :-*

Title: Re: Deep cockpit conversion to open transom?
Post by: RHYC 1 on December 02, 2016, 03:18:30 PM

Jim Hopton has done one and JJ has modified two Epoxy/Poly  Self drainers to deep cockpit.

Matthew 1432